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so john boehner is in a very difficult spot. we've seen some movement that republicans are willing to put some tax revenue on it, but as boehner said over the weekend, he's not going to raise tax rates. and obama is insisting on that. so i don't think you're going to get, see any type of deal this week when congress comes back. there'll be more leverage games, and we're going to probably go deep into december raising the question, are we going to get a deal? jenna: what do you think? >> i think eventually they are going to get a deal, but i think it'll probably be a two-step process where they get some type of down payment on tax reform and then do something larger in the new year with the new congress being sworn in. so, but how do you do that, how do you have one-step process? i think you've got to have the parameters of what you're going to do next year now. boehner does not want a huge deal in the lame duck. he says that the new congress should be in session when you're going to do this, the newly-elected people. so it's goi
so john boehner is in a very difficult spot. we've seen some movement that republicans are willing to put some tax revenue on it, but as boehner said over the weekend, he's not going to raise tax rates. and obama is insisting on that. so i don't think you're going to get, see any type of deal this week when congress comes back. there'll be more leverage games, and we're going to probably go deep into december raising the question, are we going to get a deal? jenna: what do you think? >> i...
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can boehner think, look, i've got as much mandate as the president? >> i think he should absolutely think that, paul. the president made clear, didn't really run on the second term agenda and didn't talk about it much. i'll tell you what the mandate is right now, the mandate is that fiscal cliff, the bipartisan mandate. >> paul: to go off it is the mandate or not to go off. >> i think the stock market went off in the last week, people are saying pretty clearly you've got to do something about this now. i think they have a lot of leverage here, because if something isn't done, the economy is going to decline, maybe go into recession and i think employment can get as high as 10%. >> paul: if we had another recession it would have. >> if you're the president of the united states in a second term, you do not want a legacy, unemployment-- >> the lesson, don't give in at all, you won and if you go off a cliff, you blame them and they'll get the blame. >> he has no other term. i think obama's going to start thinking about his legacy and i predict he may thro
can boehner think, look, i've got as much mandate as the president? >> i think he should absolutely think that, paul. the president made clear, didn't really run on the second term agenda and didn't talk about it much. i'll tell you what the mandate is right now, the mandate is that fiscal cliff, the bipartisan mandate. >> paul: to go off it is the mandate or not to go off. >> i think the stock market went off in the last week, people are saying pretty clearly you've got to do...
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curious, the coverage seems to presuppose the only person that got re-elected was the president when john boehner and all the others got re-elected, as well? >> if you still believe in hope and change, it's amazing that the american people elected the same configuration which is basically a check and balance system that is going to make it hard to do anything no matter by what margin obama won. >> jon: how does the yeid cover the next four years? you have obamacare finally being implemented. economy is still in the doldrums. what is going to be the headline? >> i think it will be focused on the intransigence of the house. not moving to meet obama in the middle. >> i totally agree with that. i would also add as of friday, there was a website that was showing major corporations from boeing to bristol-myers and many others beginning to lay off substantial number of workers. will that be bliapd on obamacare? i don't think so. >> another thing looking ahead, sharon waxman from the "new york times" who runs a website. this is hollywood's victory. they won on gay marriage. they won on marijuana, they wo
curious, the coverage seems to presuppose the only person that got re-elected was the president when john boehner and all the others got re-elected, as well? >> if you still believe in hope and change, it's amazing that the american people elected the same configuration which is basically a check and balance system that is going to make it hard to do anything no matter by what margin obama won. >> jon: how does the yeid cover the next four years? you have obamacare finally being...
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gregg: so, steve is john boehner right or crystal right. >> john boehner gets an a in economics. he's precisely right. a large percentage of the income that barack obama wants to tax at the higher rate is small business income. the other part of it that the speaker didn't mention is the other big component of that income is investment income the money that the people put into the small businesses to create them in the first place. doug knows this very well that one of the big problems we have in the economy right now is businesses aren't inch investigating, they are not expand -lg your operations. can you think of a worst time to raise the tax rate on investment when investment went negative in the last quarter? if businesses are not investing they can't hire more workers and i agree with doug it could cause a ou double-dip recession. gregg: if you force higher income americans to pay more in taxes not through increasing their tax rates but rather closing the loopholes, deductions, credits and so on and so forth, that is still a net increase on that important sector. so how is th
gregg: so, steve is john boehner right or crystal right. >> john boehner gets an a in economics. he's precisely right. a large percentage of the income that barack obama wants to tax at the higher rate is small business income. the other part of it that the speaker didn't mention is the other big component of that income is investment income the money that the people put into the small businesses to create them in the first place. doug knows this very well that one of the big problems we...
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in terms of raising revenue which boehner grew about. if you grew the economy at reagan levels instead of two percent and obama and french levels, just growing faster and do that for a decade, the federal government gets trillions in taxes. we could undo the damage by having higher growth. >> gretchen: that's the difference in ideology. raise it to 3#.9 percent x. replace the alternative minimum tax with the buffet and raise the state tax and long-term capitol gains from 15-20. where do you think that those four points will go in negotiations with the republicans? >> mr. boehner said one thing he's not willing to give up on is maintaining the 35 percent top rate. obama wants 39.6 percent. it is rather significant increase. the obama care tax increase. he takes the tax rate on half of all maul - on small business fall in the higher tax rate of 44 percent and up from 35 percent that. is a body blow to small businesses . obama doesn't care. they are not unionized and don't help him out. we have to protect that part of the country and focus
in terms of raising revenue which boehner grew about. if you grew the economy at reagan levels instead of two percent and obama and french levels, just growing faster and do that for a decade, the federal government gets trillions in taxes. we could undo the damage by having higher growth. >> gretchen: that's the difference in ideology. raise it to 3#.9 percent x. replace the alternative minimum tax with the buffet and raise the state tax and long-term capitol gains from 15-20. where do...